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  Common JW Response to Apostates

  by KingDavidwasframed in

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  one of the things i hear from jws and even my mother is "if being a jw is so bad, where else would we go?

  " or along the same line, but different wording "i know the society isn't perfect, but where else do they teach about jehovah?".

  so i got to thinking last night, is there really a fds?

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  king david, i USED to think the same... now i am scared if they go any further they will end up baptized and told to shun me.

  oz
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  Excellent quote from "Millions Now Living Will Never Die!"

  by sd-7 in

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  ...i know that seems hard to believe.

  but hey, who doesn't love the happy prospect of never dying?

  certainly the folks in 1920 who received this book are still looking forward to that day with bright, beaming eyes!

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  Oh, thats OLD LIGHT.

  NEW LIGHT is "dont ever ever even look in the direction of someone who might even look like an apostate"

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  Anyone leave the org without the help of the net?

  by Miss Chievous in

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  just wondering if anyone here left the org without ever looking at anything on the net and if so how did it happen for you?.

  miss c.

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  I left 10 years ago. I moved away to another cong territory. I never dared to turn to the internet or the library. I just figured i had to do this alone and anyway, i was not interested in seeing if they e\were wrong, i just did not want to live like a christian anymore.

  been on here about a month or so

  Oz
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  in search of proofs: Attn Farkle and Nathan Natas! re; united cemetery and the WBTS

  by Aussie Oz in

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  hi guys, i have noticed that you two seem to have lots of knowlege at your fingertips.

  so i hope you dont mind me attn to you!.

  i have found the following information on the internet while looking into the miracle wheat:.

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  Aussie Oz

  Hi guys, i have noticed that you two seem to have lots of knowlege at your fingertips. so i hope you dont mind me attn to you!

  I have found the following information on the internet while looking into the miracle wheat:

  One source said that the president of united cemetaries corporation was Bohnet, another that the president of the cemetary gave to Bohnet the 'miracle wheat.'

  another lists van anburgh's testamony on the Eagle lawsuit as admitting to the two 'dummy' corporations; united cemetery and investment inc.

  Are there actual documented proofs of this stuff? Like photo copies, scans or even government web sites of records etc?

  If it was true that united cemetaries was a WT corp, is it still so today?

  been googleing awhile now and keep finding the same stuff, but no actual links, pdf's, books, pages, actual court records or documents. Surely somebody must have them or it just becomes handed down here-say i fear.

  cheers

  Oz
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  Just watched 'knocking' Doco on JW on SBS TV. an irony

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just watched this documentary on our local tv.

  among all the issues touched on, one really stood out to me.. the elderly jw man, who survived the concentration camps as a jew, who became a jw after observing them in the camp was reuniting his two sides of family.

  the jw and his jewish daughters family.

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  It was quite pro JW. i recorded it on dvd, i would be surprised if you can't get it at ABC shops though.

  oz
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  Sherlock Holmes movie...demonic!!

  by dudeson in

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  i logged into facebook today and somebody mentioned they are going to see the new sherlock holmes movie later today.

  two comments later comes this piece of jw epic pile of fail, "i don't recommend that movie.

  went to go see it last night and it's pretty demonic.

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  sorry to spoil it too, but had they stayed to the end, it was all shown to be science and chemistry.

  my JW kids loved it! i took them

  oz
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  Illuminati, satanism, bloodlines and CT Russell. Far fetched? Plausable? Rubbish?

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have started at the beginning in my proving to myself what i find true or not about 'apostate' information.

  so naturaly, this comes up.. it seems a bit out there to me, i mean, the illuminati?

  are we in a movie with tom hanks running around bethel?

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  THANKYOU!

  I figured it was wack job stuff, and have been spending time looking into the stuff that does have documentation and that the wt tries to defend. as well as the 'normal' information.

  I looked at the header page for this site and thought what a dis-service they were doing to ones seeking truth.

  so i shortcut and asked here!

  thanks again

  Oz
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  had second thoughts about divorcing my JW wife...

  by oompa in

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  just this week after being separated a little over two months....and funny cause i just got a pm from a newbie about what it is like to leave all...including your wife or husband....anyway, i spent the day with my wife and we talked about it...it is so sad....even though we are very different in natures...i again concluded there is enough in common to be happy and grow old and avoid the very high costs to both of a divorce....except we just cant figure out how to have totally separate friends and social lives....that is kinda big and may still be the deal breaker....soooooo frustrating and infuriating..........oompa.

  here was my reply to the newbie pm:.

  leaving was terribly hard as my wife is a wonderful and attractive person...my 22 year old son is also a good dub...and my parents are not real old yet and he is a hardcore elder.

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  After my divorce, my ex came back and asked to try again, by then i was D/F as well. She wanted to get back together for the sake of the kids. I refused, a marriage based only on shared children and a mortgage, full of the declared dislike that she had for me was no way to go.

  Still, it was no picnic. Divorce lost me 99% of my time with my children, 100% property settlement, and worse, it broke me emotionaly and physically for years.

  Please think it over carefully, if you and the wife can find a way to be happy together NOW, go for that.

  oz
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  Illuminati, satanism, bloodlines and CT Russell. Far fetched? Plausable? Rubbish?

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have started at the beginning in my proving to myself what i find true or not about 'apostate' information.

  so naturaly, this comes up.. it seems a bit out there to me, i mean, the illuminati?

  are we in a movie with tom hanks running around bethel?

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  I have started at the beginning in my proving to myself what i find true or not about 'apostate' information. So naturaly, this comes up.

  It seems a bit out there to me, i mean, the illuminati? are we in a movie with tom hanks running around bethel? Satanic rituals at bethel, the memorial a 'say no to the body of christ' hidden satanic ritual?, the bloodlines of Russell and Rutherford a Echnocian majic line?

  Who has looked into this in more depth? Lots of claims but no evidence... Russell owned a cemetary?

  Is this worth my time or is it a load of conspiracy tripe from wanna be watchtower slayers?

  oz
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  this is gunna be a long road to truth, looking at both sides. and i will need help

  by Aussie Oz in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  convinced as i 99% am that the wt society is all we have concluded, i feel i owe to myself and my children to be 100% convinced before actively trying to extract them.. first up i must say, doctrine is of little interest to me.

  what gets me is the provable wrong-doing, the hypocrasy, cover-ups, double standards, you know what i mean i think.. on that sort of stuff, i feel it right to look at the counter arguments and proofs offered to explain the wt side of things, both by wt soc themselves and apologists.. therein lies the daunting road.

  i grew up in the 'truth', so i never got to make sure of all things before getting baptised.

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  There seems to be a lot of comment about my statement that doctrine is not important to me.

  allow me to explain.

  At this point of the game, it IS of little interest. I dont give a flyin' ducks arse whether god is one or three, whether hell is real or not, if shunning is scriptural, whether 144000 go to heaven, if we have an immortal soul or not. I dont care if the bible is true or not at this time.

  At this part of my journey, what is important is

  1. Sorting through all 'apostate' information, seeking what i find true and what is conjecture or lies.

  2. Understanding this religion that dominated me for 37 years and

  3. If i need to, to get my kids the hell outa there.

  I didn't leave because i found them full of shit. I did not leave because i found the doctrines wrong. I left because i did not want to be a christian anymore.

  Oz